Do you see that making money in Tropico 4 now is so easy ?

At the initial stage, if you don't spend so much building expensive houses, your budget will never be in minus level even though you haven't begun to set up money-earning buildings. I mean the foreign aid would help do that.

Once you've saved enough amount frm aiding to pay for a refinery and import a small qtty of crude oil, your budget will be able on the rocket. Food? no need to plant anything, do import at no limit, plz! Salaries? hmm, 1 peso for uneducated, 2 for high-school ones, 3 for college ones, not so good to save money like that? Houses? Free Shanties/bunkhouses for all, lol.

I tried to run this way for a sandbox island with no resources almost, bad soil. The happiness index still reached over 70 in just 20 years. Especially, in the last 5 years, my island was on rapid rocket speed once I had 3 banks full of efficiency. What to do? Destroy all shanties and "Quick build" apartments or even condos/villas if u like, need to be more rich? more refineries, do it plz!, your island will be refreshed in just some months only.

Importation & "Quick build", yeah, is it a power or a cheat to be abused in the gameplay now?

(07-03-2012 02:37 AM)Little Dragon Wrote:  Do you see that making money in Tropico 4 now is so easy ?

Agreed, it's so much easier now than in T1.

Quote:...Salaries? hmm, 1 peso for uneducated, 2 for high-school ones, 3 for college ones... The happiness index still reached over 70 in just 20 years...

What sorcery is this?

(07-03-2012 02:52 PM)Dicktator Wrote:  What sorcery is this?

I think it's so easy to remove this "cheat". Just follow this way, simply.

1.Reduce all the foreign aids and require conditions to receive aiding.

As u can see, the aided amount now is so enough for the island to survive without doing anything.

Aiding: The gameplay must be changed, i.e you can't receive aids if the Ministry of Foreign Affairs hasn't built and relations with the Superpower hasn't set up yet. Btw, why are aids insisting frm U.S.S.R/U.S ? As I know, Japan or Arablic Saudi now is one of the countries which donated many aids.

How to set up relations to receive aids:
T4 is doing this way well. Not so? Is it not that you're receiving some tasks as "U..S requires 500 units of Rum, Middle East require 200 units of beef, China requires 300 units of canned fish,..." i.e: You can only set up relation with a country once you fulfill a demand from it, not like the way as it is now. So the initial stage of foreign affairs must be set at 0.

2.Imported material and export even:
As mentioned in 1). You can't import or even export anyhting in the initial stage but have to set up relations 1st.

No way to earn money at the initial stage ? How to solve? New feature of teh gameplay may be considered, i.e vessels of the smugglers and contrabands, but you can only sell your goods to them at very low price.

Hoping my ideas will contribute in making gameplay more better.

(09-03-2012 01:19 AM)Little Dragon Wrote:  Aiding: The gameplay must be changed, i.e you can't receive aids if the Ministry of Foreign Affairs hasn't built and relations with the Superpower hasn't set up yet. Btw, why are aids insisting frm U.S.S.R/U.S ? As I know, Japan or Arablic Saudi now is one of the countries which donated many aids.

you start in 1950...in that time, there were only this two, i think.

Lebe jeden Tag, als wäre es Dein Letzter! / Live each day as it would be your last!

(09-03-2012 10:07 AM)Dorimil Wrote:  you start in 1950...in that time, there were only this two, i think.

Yes, only 2 superpowers for aids.

As for T4's gameplay now, you could start with any others since 1950. I mean the foreign trade.

"receive aids" lol, better be careful next time... jk

I like your ideas regarding foreign aid, however I still don't understand how you'd be contented with subsisting on foreign aid; oh well to each his own, I guess.

(09-03-2012 04:12 PM)Dicktator Wrote:  "receive aids" lol, better be careful next time... jk

I like your ideas regarding foreign aid, however I still don't understand how you'd be contented with subsisting on foreign aid; oh well to each his own, I guess.

Hehe, what a humourous guy! Tropican doctors may be doing it in their laboratories and invent a vaccine soon. Ready for Nobel prizes!

Foreign aid & Importation & "Quick Build": As mentioned, don't u see that it makes the gameplay so easily now?

Btw, Setting up relations & trade: This aspect recalls the series of Ceasar, Pharaoh, Rise of the middle Kingdom. i.e you could only import & export (& receive aiding/gift) when you tried in effort to open a relation. This way will make the game more strategic and I'd like T4 to follow it. Isn't it more attractive than the the way it's on now? Btw, the game started in 1950 adding more ralatons with China, Middle East and you would immediately trade with them. Does it sound logical? They already know you in 1950 and send container vessels to deal with u?

If I'm not wrong, the present regime of China was established in 1949 or 1950, isn't it? While some Middle Eastern countries hadn't got independence yet during 1950s and Europe was still under cured after ww2, correct? Well, need more data on this problem.

What I'm emphasizing now it's the way to make money. It can't be abused as a cheat. Based on my experience, the importation of crude oil is so easy and refineries could be built in any island now. How d'u think if I ignore other industries but concentrate in Oil refinery only as the fastest way to earn money? At least, if you need to import crude oil, you have to do smt in effort, i.e indulge Middle East or U.S.S.R with smt to pay for friendship, then feed the relations with them respectfully.