(20-01-2011 07:53 PM)IronFist Wrote:  Yes, yes, you are what you hang around, and so forth...

Also, my view of women isn't too twisted. I mean, yes there are handfuls of self-sustaining women; I know many myself. However, there are several others who probably just see you as someone who could potentially pay good child support X( and I do not like the thought of that one bit. Let me point out again that she was very dumb and certainly showed above average golddigger tendencies. Some women think they are worth every dime you have because they are "gracing you with their presence." Oh yeah, and *pukes at gay marriage reference*

Yes the quiet girls can be entertaining, but they often completely blindside you and you've absolutely no idea how to deal with them when the do something out of character. The more fierce ones force you to always be prepared for their angry voice/crying fits/jealousy rants/bouts of over-territorial behavior. That, I assure, does not wither with time.

hehehehe this reaction made me laugh XD Maybe you are better fit to be single XD And the sentence " However, there are several others who probably just see you as someone who could potentially pay good child support X( and I do not like the thought of that one bit." Made me almost roll off my chair because it almost completely describes my mother XD

So you are against gay marriages hehehehe XD actually I don't really choose any gender, I choose the person regardless of what gender she/he or it may have >.o And to come back to gay marriages, that must be another reason for you to dislike the dutch XD

lol and I always thought that was how men reacted XD Lol I had one boyfriend that broke up with me and while telling me it he was crying and I was like O.O; "What the heck!? shouldn't I be the one crying? O.O;
How do you know it doesn't wither with time btw, do you have so much experience with one relationship that you can be so sure XP

(20-01-2011 08:07 PM)Debsjen Wrote:  hehehehe this reaction made me laugh XD Maybe you are better fit to be single XD And the sentence " However, there are several others who probably just see you as someone who could potentially pay good child support X( and I do not like the thought of that one bit." Made me almost roll off my chair because it almost completely describes my mother XD

So you are against gay marriages hehehehe XD actually I don't really choose any gender, I choose the person regardless of what gender she/he or it may have >.o And to come back to gay marriages, that must be another reason for you to dislike the dutch XD

lol and I always thought that was how men reacted XD Lol I had one boyfriend that broke up with me and while telling me it he was crying and I was like O.O; "What the heck!? shouldn't I be the one crying? O.O;
How do you know it doesn't wither with time btw, do you have so much experience with one relationship that you can be so sure XP

I just don't like the idea of being leeched of off. Here, you see the child support moms driving around in Escalades. Somebody's has to pay for that nonsense, and I don't like the idea of being a sucker. What, did your mom get married like 3 times to get child support from each of the "dads":P?

As per you wrecking your ex-boyfriend, well, I dunno. Maybe him crying is a Dutch thing? Just can't handle the stress/pressure? Feels guilty? Feels weak/incompetent?Maybe he thought you'd be less upset if he did? There are a variety of explanations. Ah, and *pukes a second time at gay marriage reference* I'm sorry, I've absolutely no sympathy for the gay rights movement. It's just too.. gay.

As a note, while I may not have the firsthand experience of women being manipulative money-crazed pyscho..people.., I still have the ability to make observations. To see what those "relationships" have done to others. It's a very broad spectrum, to say the least.

Not really my mother was married twice, only got child support from my father, that is until I decided to go live with my father. She got women support from her other husband, since my mother was sick and was unable to work because of it, don't jump too easily to conclusions, else I might chew your head of, since it's one thing for me to say something about my mother since I know her, but if you are going to say something then I still have to defend her, the obligation of a daughter, even if she isn't perfect.

I never asked you to have sympathy for the gay movement, but I did explain my point of view. And you do know what gay means right >.o But well I know it an controversial subject in the United states, although it's kind of weird since the united states should be the one that is bothered by gay marriages, since they say it's the land of the free. But I guess they actually mean is you are as free as we let you be ^^;

But men can be just as crazy as women, it's all a matter of perspective. For I have seen that a coin has two sides and not one, where two fight there are two to blame. Action and reaction.

(20-01-2011 10:15 PM)Debsjen Wrote:  Not really my mother was married twice, only got child support from my father, that is until I decided to go live with my father. She got women support from her other husband, since my mother was sick and was unable to work because of it, don't jump too easily to conclusions, else I might chew your head of, since it's one thing for me to say something about my mother since I know her, but if you are going to say something then I still have to defend her, the obligation of a daughter, even if she isn't perfect.

I never asked you to have sympathy for the gay movement, but I did explain my point of view. And you do know what gay means right >.o But well I know it an controversial subject in the United states, although it's kind of weird since the united states should be the one that is bothered by gay marriages, since they say it's the land of the free. But I guess they actually mean is you are as free as we let you be ^^;

But men can be just as crazy as women, it's all a matter of perspective. For I have seen that a coin has two sides and not one, where two fight there are two to blame. Action and reaction.

I was not insulting your mother, calm down.. I'm sure you have someone else to chew out for some reason..

And the United States is the land of the free... for white male protestant heterosexuals. /sarcasm Everyone wants some sort of special treatment for giggles basically. If you do not agree with every single ridiculous, shortsighted, meaningless, and impractical liberal proposal, you are labeled as a closed-minded bigot. What good would it do if our nation as a whole did legalize gay marriage? Help the economy by opening up a new market for divorce court lawyers? Some stupid issue only popular because it's so easy to polarize. Gives politicians hope for support and publicity. Minimal practical meaning either way, other than "bragging rights". Spare me.

And I never said men are more crazy then women or vice versa. I'm just saying my perspective- that I am forced to be cautious by less honorable type, because I will pay if thing go to heck, regardless of the cause. Note that it is one thing to have circumstances end up that way, another for it to be part of one's premeditated "plan." The former is understandable, the latter I find disgusting. Crazy men in relationships is honestly (I don't mean to sound callous or anything) not my problem-and it's generally a good idea to have your own problems in some sort of order before worrying about those of others. Call me cold, call me stupid, call me whatever-it doesn't change the way things work.

Pardon my ranting... it's hard to stop when you get going

(20-01-2011 11:49 PM)IronFist Wrote:  I was not insulting your mother, calm down.. I'm sure you have someone else to chew out for some reason..

And the United States is the land of the free... for white male protestant heterosexuals. /sarcasm Everyone wants some sort of special treatment for giggles basically. If you do not agree with every single ridiculous, shortsighted, meaningless, and impractical liberal proposal, you are labeled as a closed-minded bigot. What good would it do if our nation as a whole did legalize gay marriage? Help the economy by opening up a new market for divorce court lawyers? Some stupid issue only popular because it's so easy to polarize. Gives politicians hope for support and publicity. Minimal practical meaning either way, other than "bragging rights". Spare me.

And never said men are more crazy then women. I'm just saying my perspective- that I am forced to be cautious by less honorable type, because I will pay if thing go to heck, regardless of the cause. Note that it is one thing to have circumstances end up that way, another for it to be part of one's premeditated "plan." The former is understandable, the latter I find disgusting. Crazy men in relationships is honestly (I don't mean to sound callous or anything) not my problem-and it's generally a good idea to have your own problems in some sort of order before worrying about those of others. Call me cold, call me stupid, call me whatever-it doesn't change the way things work.

Pardon my ranting... it's hard to stop when you get going

But ranting is good *o* it's very good for the soul, since well you are talking to me here, I'm good at rants. Although jokes about my mother I don't handle that well, unless me, my little sister or brother make the jokes XD oooh and who should I chew out then. Already chewed out someone this week ^^ too much chewing hurts my jaw especially when their heads are as thick as elephant's skin._. (not intended to you actually XD)

I never said you were close minded ._.;;;;; Nah I wouldn't dream of doing that, neither did I say I was gay or wanted to marry actually ^^;;; I just said I'm not attracted to gender but to a person.
Actually in my country gay marriages are legal since the beginning of times(well that over-exaggerating) but still I don't notice the difference whether it's legal or not. But anyway I wanted to make a point somewhere. It's like with the equal rights for black people, those things weren't needed if people didn't consider them differently. (I hope I given enough fuel to let you rant again >.o) but in the end it doesn't matter to me if they legalized it or not, since I don't consider them different nor will I treat them differently.

the sentence that I underlined in the quote didn't make sense in that part at all XD
Lol but anyway(I seem to like the word anyway today) that entire part didn't make sense, I knew you were trying to make a point somewhere but I couldn't find it today XD But People in general forget to sort out their own problems first before worrying about others, it's pretty much human nature.

Lol what do you get when you put a Ironfist and a Debsjen in one topic? The weirdest conversations without an end or exact agreement on anything XD but well that's the fun thing about talking with you XD

(21-01-2011 12:34 AM)Debsjen Wrote:  But ranting is good *o* it's very good for the soul, since well you are talking to me here, I'm good at rants. Although jokes about my mother I don't handle that well, unless me, my little sister or brother make the jokes XD oooh and who should I chew out then. Already chewed out someone this week ^^ too much chewing hurts my jaw especially when their heads are as thick as elephant's skin._. (not intended to you actually XD)

I never said you were close minded ._.;;;;; Nah I wouldn't dream of doing that, neither did I say I was gay or wanted to marry actually ^^;;; I just said I'm not attracted to gender but to a person.
Actually in my country gay marriages are legal since the beginning of times(well that over-exaggerating) but still I don't notice the difference whether it's legal or not. But anyway I wanted to make a point somewhere. It's like with the equal rights for black people, those things weren't needed if people didn't consider them differently. (I hope I given enough fuel to let you rant again >.o) but in the end it doesn't matter to me if they legalized it or not, since I don't consider them different nor will I treat them differently.

the sentence that I underlined in the quote didn't make sense in that part at all XD
Lol but anyway(I seem to like the word anyway today) that entire part didn't make sense, I knew you were trying to make a point somewhere but I couldn't find it today XD But People in general forget to sort out their own problems first before worrying about others, it's pretty much human nature.

Lol what do you get when you put a Ironfist and a Debsjen in one topic? The weirdest conversations without an end or exact agreement on anything XD but well that's the fun thing about talking with you XD

Fixed the busted sentence.. I didn't really proofread. I do that every so often.

When it comes to attraction, I would like to let you know I am effectively the other way around , often physically attracted to a person first, and later findings about personality, experiences, etc. tend to either rationalize or reverse that attraction. The way a women appears is just the bait that lures you in. What keeps you there is a different thing entirely. Lust is for the body, love is for the soul.

I think it's best I not get started on the differences between one's race and one's sexual orientation... apples and oranges. I will leave it at that.

My scatterbrained rant's point was my perspective on relationships: It is easy to be cynical and overly cautious due to the considerable number of people who view relationships as expendable economic commodities. Let me dumb that down a bit. They were a considerable quantity of women from my past-only acquaintances- that would not bat an eye if I were shot in the street just a few years ago. However, now when some of them see my career plans and my actions towards achieving them, they pretend that they were my friend; my bitter enemies act as if they valued me and vice versa. Why? Five, ten years ago, I was the nerdy loner, and they were dumb tramps. Now, I'm going to be a chemical engineer, and they are for the most part still dumb tramps (Surprise!). When I deal with their fakeness, I want to just call them whores to their faces. It's like: Honest to god, what the hell do you take me for?

Well, I probably just sounded like a jaded screwup. I guess I should stop for a bit.

(22-01-2011 12:46 AM)IronFist Wrote:  Fixed the busted sentence.. I didn't really proofread. I do that every so often.

When it comes to attraction, I would like to let you know I am effectively the other way around , often physically attracted to a person first, and later findings about personality, experiences, etc. tend to either rationalize or reverse that attraction. The way a women appears is just the bait that lures you in. What keeps you there is a different thing entirely. Lust is for the body, love is for the soul.

I think it's best I not get started on the differences between one's race and one's sexual orientation... apples and oranges. I will leave it at that.

My scatterbrained rant's point was my perspective on relationships: It is easy to be cynical and overly cautious due to the considerable number of people who view relationships as expendable economic commodities. Let me dumb that down a bit. They were a considerable quantity of women from my past-only acquaintances- that would not bat an eye if I were shot in the street just a few years ago. However, now when some of them see my career plans and my actions towards achieving them, they pretend that they were my friend; my bitter enemies act as if they valued me and vice versa. Why? Five, ten years ago, I was the nerdy loner, and they were dumb tramps. Now, I'm going to be a chemical engineer, and they are for the most part still dumb tramps (Surprise!). When I deal with their fakeness, I want to just call them whores to their faces. It's like: Honest to god, what the hell do you take me for?

Well, I probably just sounded like a jaded screwup. I guess I should stop for a bit.

lol I found nummerous time that I get attracted to men in later stages, when getting to know them. Although most likely I will never get past the getting to know someone, since I still prefer being single over being with someone.

Being cynical is okay, especially if you have every right to >.o but I just wanted to show that there are more kinds of women and sure your kind of women doesn't really sound nice. But well hearing you say you were a nerdy loner, makes me think you might still be the nerdy loner except with chemical engineer in front of it XP You don't get rid of an image that easily, in high school I was the quiet weird girl, I got trampled on a lot and badgered a lot by guys. At that time I hated guys from the bottom of my heart, I had no kindness for them in any part of my body. When I turned 18 I did pretty much a 180 on my own life and used guys just because I could, I wanted to make them feel what they did to me(although I wasn't hurting the ones that hurt me). I became very open and honest about things I liked and didn't like. when i got around 20 I started to find some balance between my two sides, and since then I do not get angry very often, nor do i really care for any sort of relationship. I like the fact that I'm single, that I can do what I want, and that I can build on my future. Also I've never seen any of my old friends again simply because for me it would be a form of staying in a past I didn't want any part of. And then you thought you were cynical >.o

I think we need a new subject, how does rainbows and kittens sound? XD Don't why but I have been having it in my mind since I started writing this post XD Lol I always say to my sister when she is angry " you know rainbows and kittens?" and then she looks at me as if I'm nuts but she's instantly forgotten that she's angry XD

Anyway what type of music do you like?

Hmm I wonder if that was a weird question? maybe I should better ask something interesting, don't know anything to ask my mind is blank atm XD

(22-01-2011 01:18 AM)Debsjen Wrote:  lol I found nummerous time that I get attracted to men in later stages, when getting to know them. Although most likely I will never get past the getting to know someone, since I still prefer being single over being with someone.

Being cynical is okay, especially if you have every right to >.o but I just wanted to show that there are more kinds of women and sure your kind of women doesn't really sound nice. But well hearing you say you were a nerdy loner, makes me think you might still be the nerdy loner except with chemical engineer in front of it XP You don't get rid of an image that easily, in high school I was the quiet weird girl, I got trampled on a lot and badgered a lot by guys. At that time I hated guys from the bottom of my heart, I had no kindness for them in any part of my body. When I turned 18 I did pretty much a 180 on my own life and used guys just because I could, I wanted to make them feel what they did to me(although I wasn't hurting the ones that hurt me). I became very open and honest about things I liked and didn't like. when i got around 20 I started to find some balance between my two sides, and since then I do not get angry very often, nor do i really care for any sort of relationship. I like the fact that I'm single, that I can do what I want, and that I can build on my future. Also I've never seen any of my old friends again simply because for me it would be a form of staying in a past I didn't want any part of. And then you thought you were cynical >.o

I think we need a new subject, how does rainbows and kittens sound? XD Don't why but I have been having it in my mind since I started writing this post XD Lol I always say to my sister when she is angry " you know rainbows and kittens?" and then she looks at me as if I'm nuts but she's instantly forgotten that she's angry XD

Anyway what type of music do you like?

Hmm I wonder if that was a weird question? maybe I should better ask something interesting, don't know anything to ask my mind is blank atm XD

Heh. Don't really listen to music at all. No Ipod, no limewire, none of that. Might listen to Bach or something if I've been working too long and my attention span is faltering. I can't stand people who are obnoxious about listen to music."Turn that crap down, I'm trying to (fill in the blank)!" Don't care for rainbows or kittens . Too high maintenance.

Na, the only things I really do when I got time to burn is watch standup (you have to love Stephen Lynch!), Colbert, South Park, etc.. something funny, if not grossly offensive. (This is where I start to get in trouble for sending horrid links to people.)That or fool around on the computer. Maybe find something obnoxious to mail people. Youtube is kinda poor, rarely go there unless I already have something specific in mind. Otherwise it's like hunting for gold in a landfill.

Heya..

I'm dropping by to say this is the most interesting topic in this place!

I like it

lol XD yes it's always interesting when two people don't agree on anything XD although it would be funny if Iron and me would agree on something for once, but if that happens we must fear the apocalypse XXD

but well we kinda stopped this topic because disagreeing is only fun for so long XD Because even though I like bach, but I also like actual music with singing in it ^^; I have a thing for lyrics and I can become quite a pain in the butt when I have a song stuck in my head that doesn't want to go away. Or a song that is on the tip of my tongue but doesn't want to come out, I'll crack my brain around it until I found the song XD

I don't watch much stand up, which is mostly due to my own humor. I have dry humor with a touch of sarcasm and the really offensive humor. I like Hans Teeuwen, he had a show in England, but watching his jokes in english doesn't do the jokes justice, well at least not for me ^^; I do watch soutpark from time to time, but that is only when I'm bored out of my skull, which happens rarely.

And now lately I almost never get bored because I started to play a new game (sacred 2) and well all the time I have goes into that ^^

(29-01-2011 04:31 PM)yellowsz Wrote:  Heya..

I'm dropping by to say this is the most interesting topic in this place!

I like it

And by interesting, you mean..?

My bitter rantings and Debsjen's semi-successful attempts to keep the tone of the discussion positive is interesting?

(30-01-2011 05:03 AM)IronFist Wrote:  

(29-01-2011 04:31 PM)yellowsz Wrote:  Heya..

I'm dropping by to say this is the most interesting topic in this place!

I like it

And by interesting, you mean..?

My bitter rantings and Debsjen's semi-successful attempts to keep the tone of the discussion positive is interesting?

No offense but I find this topic is more alive. The others are boring But could be caused by the fact I don't have P4 so I don't have anything to contribute nor participate in the discussions.

(30-01-2011 09:09 AM)yellowsz Wrote:  

(30-01-2011 05:03 AM)IronFist Wrote:  

(29-01-2011 04:31 PM)yellowsz Wrote:  Heya..

I'm dropping by to say this is the most interesting topic in this place!

I like it

And by interesting, you mean..?

My bitter rantings and Debsjen's semi-successful attempts to keep the tone of the discussion positive is interesting?

No offense but I find this topic is more alive. The others are boring But could be caused by the fact I don't have P4 so I don't have anything to contribute nor participate in the discussions.

Now it's dead?

pretty much I guess XD

Pretty much.

If you ever find yourself in the backwards, intolerant and oppressive United States, say so ?

Sure I will ^.^ I'll need to bite someones head if I ever find myself there and I doubt everybody there can handle it with the ease you have been doing hehehe

(24-03-2011 07:46 AM)Debsjen Wrote:  Sure I will ^.^ I'll need to bite someones head if I ever find myself there and I doubt everybody there can handle it with the ease you have been doing hehehe

Hehehehe.... (o.o)

I...just...hate...spamming ( reported )

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I...just...hate...spamming ( reported )

I already reported this idiot. He’ll be gone soon. Another poor soul that doesn’t have a life.

I reported him too.

Just making mess on forums...

Oh great he went to T3 forum now

Actually he’s systematically going everywhere. Certainly has waaay too much time on his hands.

We will need army of moderators to stop this nonsense.

Is it possible that it is a spambot ?

Wow. Spammerific!

And I thought someone tried to necro this thread for a minute.

lol yeah I got a mail that someone reacted on this topic XD

(07-08-2011 04:02 PM)Debsjen Wrote:  lol yeah I got a mail that someone reacted on this topic XD

Subscribing to threads.. I never understood that.

there´s more you don´t understand, but that´s okay XD

You're really funny..

HMPH. Best not get started. Back to AoE:O.

Btw, if one of you guys wanted to play AoE:O (Age of Empires Online) prior to release, I've a spare pre-release code that is of no use to me. I wanted to give it to my brother, but he converted to communism and bought a mac which is not supported.

Pm me if you want it.