As mentioned in another thread El Magnifico Presidente wants to make his own Spartan Island thing.

I've already made a poster with El Presidente and Leonidas but I don't want the U.S. invade my Island or Kalypso Media sending Ceville after me for some sort of st*** copyright infringement because of a simple fan art so let's just discuss the basics with me without any visual aid:

How can the economy be running with 300 Soldiers on your Island?

Is "slavery" possible? Considering an Emmigration Ban and a Wage set on 1$ per Day. Of course you need Obstetrics and a contraception ban to produce new slaves.

What kind of necessary jobs do you need to support those soldiers?

The idea is to rely completely and utterly on unrefinded products which will be harversted by slave like tropicans with no more than 1$ wages.

The Elite Military will shoot everyone on sight and has access to the most luxurious army barracks and R&R
So how many Helots you need to support 300 Soldiers (including the hoplite Generals) to have the island running?

Edit: So far I have started a Sandboxgame with 600 Inhabitans and about 210 Soldiers, 200 Children and the rest are slave labor and a handful of specialists (like teachers and oilrig engineers no heavy industry, I don't want any skilled non military men on my island except for military proffessor and the secret police ) it's not efficient and due the fact that the soldiers get from 40$ to 50$ a Month the economy isn't *that* stable.
But THEY are quite happy about my candidacy... Especially the healthcare satisfaction of over 70 is nice... oO

This is madness...
No, this is Spartico!!!

I've thought about trying something along these lines. Basically, start off banning contraceptives, focusing on obstetrics, etc.


I'd have a very small caste of opulently paid key officials(obstetrics doctors, bureaucrats), and a larger number of equally well-off police, soldiers, and generals.

The island would operate more or less as a 'concentration camp,' where the general population work for 1$/day and have little-to-no living accommodations.

Grade schools might be necessary for the 'obedience training' option to reduce the chance of successful rebellion, but aside from that, all other elite bourgeois could be hired from abroad. That is, no education to speak of.

Is this doable in anything but god-mode?

Nice Ideas...

How much profit does a cash crop farm turn in on the average?
Maybe Ranches with Smoked Beef (I never saw any exports resembling Smoked Beef I think it's bug), mining Gold and Bauxite might be quite profitable at first but it is only a temporary income. If each of your Elites (or each of my Spartan Soldiers) has two or three Farms you might pull this off without any God Mode.

haha pretty cool.. show us some screenies.. btw what are they sleeping in? slaves atleast bunkhouses or bellow?

Okay, I'm trying to plan my Spartan Colony (without God Mode)

Let's see...

300 Soldiers a 50$ makes 15000 a Month
That's 180.000$ a year Salary that the Farms and Ranches need to pull off.
Not to mention the food (Or are Army Bases selfsufficient?)

Well Good news is, we don't need Healthcare that much ;-)
Some specialists will be needed though, like bankers and churches, even some military Colleges and Highschools which really fits into the Spartan Concept of mine.

Mines and a weapons factory might be handy but are only a temporary solution.
Let's see ...

Edit:
My Distopian Dream has been shattered by severe crashes and instability. Either the U.S. Nukes my Island out of fear or the game does have a maximum number of Guard Stations which I exceeded. :'-(
Have to try again... ARghhhh...

Yea, I'm having trouble as well. It seems the only way to avoid the angry U.S is the nuclear program, which is impossibly expensive to secure in time to make a difference.

Why not get a russian base on the island? You get rent and safety!

Spartan doesn't have any allies... Sparta only has enemies... dead enemies... harharharhharhar...

Thank you, but no sorry - No foreign military on Spartan ground.

Game crashes with the nuclear Testing Programm and so many military bases, not nice :-(

I did it!!! Finallly!!!!
[Spartan chorus Howl in the Background]


But the game is very unstable and the poor rebels don't stand a chance...

I post some screens and savegames if manage to find the screenshot button on my keyboard.

About 300 Soldiers... Some Military Scientist and Priests the rest are slave Helots...


Edit: If I find some time I start building up more Entertainment which cost like 3 Years of a farmers income. If the farmer wants to go the restaurant to spend some time he needs to save all his money 36 month to get some burritos and a ElPrez Burger with fries.