I just downloaded Modern Times from Steam and now I want to remove it...

These are my issues:

1) I want ALL building options old and new - I DO NOT WANT my old buildings replaced, nor do I only want the Modern time options later in the game. I would rather work with the older buildings than the new ones.

2) I like using the Challenge Editor to make huge cities/islands - The Junta DLC decorations/items don't seem to be available during Challenge Editor mode - is this always the case or because I downloaded Modern Times? (I downloaded Junta AFTER Modern Times)

3) When I open a saved Challenge, it forces me to convert it to Modern Times - DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN

I removed Tropico 4 from STeam and reloaded, but it is reloading it WITH Modern Times - all I want to do is go back to BEFORE Modern Times, Play the Original Tropico 4 with Junta, Plantador & QQuick Dry Cement.

PLEASE HELP - I WANT TO ERASE MODERN TIMES!

not sure if it works the same on steam but here is a thread about the same topic..

personally i wish they would make a interface to allow you to check box what DLC you want active for your game..

http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=13997

The modern building make it a bit too easy. An option at startup would be nice. The commercial centres and other buildings do look nice, though.

I bought everything off of Steam last week. You can turn off Modern Times in the game set up for sandbox. The first game I played had it turned off. Got a little confusing though because China wanted me to export cars to them.

I wish the new buildings didn't replace the old ones. I like having more options and somethings like the Biofarm just feels too science-fictiony. Admittedly, I haven't been keeping up with farming in the real world but I don't think we switched to biofarms in the late sixties.

...Biofarming and biodynamic agriculture has been around since before you were born.

Bio farms are resource buildings in Tropico 4: Modern Times that take the place of farms. (Discovered 1957) They take up much more space than old farms do and employ fewer people, but they produce multiple crops at a time. No matter what work mode a bio farm is set to, it produces a supply of corn on the side.

Work Modes: 1} Corn: produces corn in all its fields. 2} Food Crops: grows bananas, papayas, and pineapples. 3} Cash Crops: coffee, tobacco, and sugar.

It seems to me that Biofarming is the European English for what is commonly known in the U.S. as Organic Farming. Of course, all farming was organic before the introduction of artificially compounded inorganic chemical fertilizers.

Biodynamic agriculture is different, although related. Wikipedia says:
The development of biodynamic agriculture began in 1924 with a series of eight lectures on agriculture given by philosopher Rudolf Steiner at Schloss Koberwitz in Silesia, Germany, (now Kobierzyce in Poland east of Wrocław). The lectures, the first known to have been given on organic agriculture, were held in response to a request by farmers who noticed degraded soil conditions and a deterioration in the health and quality of crops and livestock resulting from the use of chemical fertilizers. The one hundred and eleven attendees, less than half of whom were farmers, came from six countries, primarily Germany and Poland. The lectures were published in November 1924; the first English translation appeared in 1928 as The Agriculture Course.

Steiner emphasized that the methods he proposed should be tested experimentally. An agricultural research group, directed by Erhard Bartsch, was formed to test the effects of biodynamic methods on the life and health of soil, plants and animals; the group published a monthly journal Demeter. Bartsch was also instrumental in developing a sales organisation for biodynamic products, Demeter, which still exists today. The research group, renamed The Imperial Association for Biodynamic Agriculture in the 1930s, was dissolved by the National Socialist regime in 1941.

So when holistic, organic agriculture became important depends on your cultural focus. It was important in Germany long before it had any practical impact in the U.S.

Biodynamic agriculture=biofarming

(20-07-2012 11:08 PM)El Capitan Wrote:  I just downloaded Modern Times from Steam and now I want to remove it...

Same here, seems to be a nice add-on for those who like it but I rather like to keep it 50s style all the time.

Took me a bit but thanks to the other topic where it outlines what to do for no-Steam users I found the file in question (on my Windows 7 64bit system):

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\tropico 4\dlc\Expansion.hpk

I renamed that file to Expansion.old and it launches Tropico without the MT DLC now. At least if I start a random map the MT on/off button has disappeared and also the challenge editor does no longer mention Modern Times.