(28-10-2009 02:55 AM)deardictator Wrote:  that's what social security means, paying the unemployed until they get job, paying the disabled..etc

You are incorrect, that's not what Social Security means in the U.S., that I assume you are from. I could be wrong in what nation you are from, but in the U.S. Social Security is what you pay into during your life of employment to cover (to a small degree) your retirement, disability, and death benefit. If you are self employed, this may not apply, unless you still contribute to SSI, some like me don't. I invest in stocks, and other retirement funds.

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(29-10-2009 12:41 AM)kanamit Wrote:  Social security is welfare for old people. Of course, when people in the US talk about "welfare queens" and other idiocy they aren't talking about grandma.

And what tree did you fall out of?? Are you from the U.S.? Social Security is EARNED by your pay-check contributions. Welfare is not, except that your tax dollars pay for it. It is not a right, and each state has different qualifications for it. In the U.S. your pay-check tells you how much SSI & UI you pay per week, or bi-weekly. You don't see a WELFARE contribution in your pay-check.

Don't ever call my parents & grand-parents welfare recipients when they worked all their lives to see to it that I had a better life.

Welfare was made for all the right reasons, but now is severely taken advantage of. I would not except welfare if I only had 2 nickles to rub together. I have way too much pride, and self respect. I'd rather sweep streets, clean toilets, or dig ditches.