Post Reply 
 
Thread Rating:
  • 1 Votes - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
[Crash] Deep in Oil
Author Message
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #1
[Crash] Deep in Oil
I'm running version 1.04 and the game has worked flawlessly up to this point.

It is Jan 1970 and the game goes unresponsive before the year is over (Nov one time, Jun another). Everytime I load the save, it will lock up again before I reach Jan 1971. I can move the mouse around and scroll but I can't click on anything. If I alt+tab out, the game will go to unresponsive status.

I can make the save available to a developer (PM me and I'll provide a link). I think it is a scripting bug in that scenario.

System Specs:
-Intel Core i7 920
-6 GiB RAM
-Sapphire 5870 1 GiB
-Realtek onboard audio
-Windows XP Professional x64 Edition
29-10-2009 07:08 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tibor Offline
Posting Freak
*****

Posts: 339
Joined: Jul 2009
Post: #2
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I was drooling over your pc then I saw xp. wtf man.
29-10-2009 07:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
hitter814 Offline
ate one fool
***

Posts: 61
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #3
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
mitx Wrote:I was drooling over your pc then I saw xp. wtf man.

Well, what OS are you using?
Vista or Win 7 or Linux?
29-10-2009 07:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #4
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
This issue happened to other people as well, some users reported the problem to be building things on the beach in a way that raise the land, avoid building on the beach and see if you can pass that point.


and hey Mitx, what's wrong with Win XP? I know win 7 is great, but win XP still great too, and I myself will keep XP on my pc until it becomes totally dysfunctional .

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
29-10-2009 08:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #5
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I built an oil refinery recently (and I mean very recently). Are they working on a fix? Basically, I want to know if I should just abandon that island altogether or wait until a patch comes out to fix it.

Edit: I searched for "Deep in Oil" and didn't find anything. That's why I created the thread.
(This post was last modified: 29-10-2009 12:06 PM by FordGT90Concept.)
29-10-2009 12:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #6
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
FordGT90Concept Wrote:I built an oil refinery recently (and I mean very recently). Are they working on a fix? Basically, I want to know if I should just abandon that island altogether or wait until a patch comes out to fix it.

Edit: I searched for "Deep in Oil" and didn't find anything. That's why I created the thread.

The issue I talked about (reported by other players here), if you put any building , refinery or whatever, on the beach and you notice the water get raised and becomes land, it will crash later. put your buildings away from the water , and for refineries make sure they are furthermost away from the water that is allowed (I know some part of the refinery on the water, but that part won't raise the land)

If you want to see what other users who have same problems had to say, browse this forum look for threads about bug/crash . I 've seen posts many times. I don't think you get to those posts by typing "deep in oil"

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
29-10-2009 12:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
sfmacguy Offline
Newbie
*

Posts: 1
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #7
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
XP 64bit is almost as buggy as ME....
30-10-2009 12:05 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #8
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
sfmacguy Wrote:XP 64bit is almost as buggy as ME....

Where did you get that information? XP 64bit is same as the 32bit , but better because it accommodates the current generation of CPU .. maybe some people confused between bugs and between things that don't work on 64bit systems. in 64bit environment whether Linux, Windows or the very recent Mac os 64bit, 32bit apps have to run through a wrapper (done automatically), but there are certain details, for example you can't run flash on IE 64bit software, only on the slower IE 32bit on a 64bit system, not fault of Windows, it is because Adobe haven't released flash 64bit for windows yet and so on.

It is exaggeration to say XP 64bit = Win Me. win me is the worst of all. even Vista is better than Win Me.

I can also see the Mac in your username [wink]

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 12:11 AM by deardictator.)
30-10-2009 12:11 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #9
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
Windows ME is about as unstable as Windows 98SE. Windows ME (9x-based) got shunned because it was released in such close proximity to Windows 2000 (NT-based) which was vastly superior.

Windows NT = 4.0
Windows 2000 = 5.0
Windows XP Home/Professional = 5.1
Server 2003, Server 2003 x64 Edition, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition = 5.2
Windows Vista = 6.0

XP x64 is vastly superior to the original XP and it fulfills all my needs. I might update to Windows 7 Professional x64 but right now, I can't justify spending $140 on it. The only thing I would gain is the currently useless DX10/11.


Now, please, on topic:

Is there any word on a patch or any known plans to fix it?
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 08:30 AM by FordGT90Concept.)
30-10-2009 08:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #10
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
Did you try what I suggested?

Developers already said somewhere here they are planning to release a patch, but meanwhile you can try to get around it. also I suggest that you send the files to their support email. you can also find the crash logs in your %%app_data%% folder .

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
30-10-2009 08:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #11
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I sent them an email a few days before creating this thread, asking if they wanted the save and they never responded. Sad


I haven't tried what you said yet because I haven't played it since. I assume it will fix it but not fix it if you know what I mean. That's great news that another patch is coming--I hope it is backwards compatible with saves.


I see logs in APPDATA but they don't appear to be crash logs. There's only three lines that suggest in error in all of the logs (there's 12):
Code:
[Console Error] Building "Substation" doesnt have entrance waypoints
[Console Error] ERROR: Door.InitStates: Cant find state Openingr for entity GuardPostBarrier
[Console Error] ERROR: Door.InitStates: Cant find state Closedr for entity GuardPostBarrier
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 10:14 AM by FordGT90Concept.)
30-10-2009 10:08 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #12
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I don't know why you have small crash log, I'm not on the computer that has tropico 3, I ll check my copy for the exact path, later. I think there is also another log inside the game path.

Those errors are same reported by another poster on this forum, he posted the crash log, and includes that exact errors.

Also please PM Timo, I think he is online now. just to make sure they fix this issue, although I'm pretty sure they are aware of it, as it is posted on this forum many times here.

I didn't encounter this problem yet because i played very little so far, and only on sandbox.

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 10:31 AM by deardictator.)
30-10-2009 10:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
chrono Offline
Haemimont games
***

Posts: 64
Joined: Sep 2009
Post: #13
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
Hi.
Could you please upload the save and post a link to it here?
30-10-2009 11:04 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #14
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
deardictator Wrote:I don't know why you have small crash log, I'm not on the computer that has tropico 3, I ll check my copy for the exact path, later. I think there is also another log inside the game path.

Those errors are same reported by another poster on this forum, he posted the crash log, and includes that exact errors.

Also please PM Timo, I think he is online now. just to make sure they fix this issue, although I'm pretty sure they are aware of it, as it is posted on this forum many times here.

I didn't encounter this problem yet because i played very little so far, and only on sandbox.
I checked in program files and my documents. What is in APPDATA is all I found that looks like debugging material.

The errors I copied and pasted sound more like warnings (not crash invoking) but what do I know? XD

I haven't played sandbox yet but I'm itching too.

Edit: There are other errors in the logs as well...

Edit2: I think the logs that were actually in use were cleared when the game crashed. There are 4 zero-length logs in order and I'm fairly confident it crashed 4 times in order. There are three 3 KB logs after that which were open-shut to get the "Deep In Oil" name on a few different occassions. The logs might not be helpful at all in debugging the major problem but the save will lead them straight to a crash so I'm not too concerned about it.


chrono Wrote:Hi.
Could you please upload the save and post a link to it here?
I responded to your PM.
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 01:14 PM by FordGT90Concept.)
30-10-2009 01:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
deardictator Offline
Lord of the dear dictators
****

Posts: 215
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #15
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I don't know either, but I saw the exact same errors/warnings, but later the game reported tons of messages obviously goes into endless thread waiting. that error might be the start not sure, developers probably know ( ; or at least I hope so.

Here is the other threads with similar issues and with crash log:

http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=2216
http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=2597

This signature has performed illegal operation and will be shut down. No charges has been filed yet. The attorney did not respond for comments, apparently he crashed while counting his potential earnings.
30-10-2009 01:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #16
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
deardictator Wrote:http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=2216
This is an exact match to my issue.

deardictator Wrote:http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=2597
This is similar but I've never had it lock up in the menu.


By the way, I have the retail, USA version of the game.


Edit: It happens regardless if I build the refinery or not. The logs are blank during/after the lock up.
(This post was last modified: 30-10-2009 04:49 PM by FordGT90Concept.)
30-10-2009 01:25 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #17
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
1.09 didn't fix it. Sad It crashed in Apr 1971. Seeing as I never made it out of 1970 before, maybe the patch helped and this is a second crash?
11-11-2009 02:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Timo Offline
Kalypso Media
**********
Administrators

Posts: 4,524
Joined: Apr 2009
Post: #18
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
If you have savegames with reproducible crashes, please send them to support@haemimontgames.com, including detailed step by step instructions on how to recreate the crash.

El Presidente on Twitter | Official Tropico 4 Steam Community Group | Tropico 4 on Facebook
11-11-2009 02:31 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #19
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
I just loaded the Crash save to be greeted with this:
http://img.techpowerup.org/091111/cyan.jpg

Settings:
http://img.techpowerup.org/091111/settings.jpg

If I zoom in (like you see on the bottom of the picture) the cyan haze goes away. I think it has something to do with the draw distance? Here's a zoomed in picture to show what I am talking about:
http://img.techpowerup.org/091111/cyan_zoom.jpg

It definitely has something to do with the draw distance because increasing it moves where the cyan starts.

I restarted the game and its still there. I loaded a different save and it is still there. Notice how the minimap is really screwed up too.


I'm making sure it will crash regardless if you do anything at all (except answer the pop ups) and I'll send it off.

Edit: I sent the email. I'm investigating if my video card is bad for th cyan stuff...


Edit: FurMark (OpenGL) ran for an hour benchmarking at 1920x1200 with no artifacts.
(This post was last modified: 11-11-2009 04:32 PM by FordGT90Concept.)
11-11-2009 02:42 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
FordGT90Concept Offline
Senior Member
****

Posts: 202
Joined: Oct 2009
Post: #20
RE: [Crash] Deep in Oil
Two months later, a patch later (1.02 -> 1.09), upgraded card drivers (Catalyst 10.1 beta), upgraded OS (Windows XP Professional x64 Edition -> Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit), started a new game, and it still locks up in "Deep in Oil." I am becoming convinced that there is a game-breaking bug in this mission so I can't complete it.
(This post was last modified: 17-01-2010 06:50 AM by FordGT90Concept.)
17-01-2010 06:40 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Contact Us | kalypso media :: website | Return to Top | Return to Content | Lite (Archive) Mode | RSS Syndication