Poll: Are you satisfied with the changes that have been announced so far?
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#1
Hi,

I've played all Tropico games so far and finally decided to register here. I am very excited for this new installment of the series. I did not enjoy Tropico 5 as much as the other Tropicos, so I hope this will be my new favourite game. When Tropico 5 came out, back then I wrote e-mails to Kalypso suggesting they should implement better transport, and have maps with multiple islands (archipelagos). That was not only my request, but the requests of several players back then in the forums. Although I am not sure that they ever have read my suggestions, I feel like they took the time to listen to what the players had to say and tried to implement these things into the game.

So far, from what I've seen in the trailers, although it doesn't seem to show a lot of gameplay, it looks pretty good and I am quite excited for this new title. What do you think? Are you satisfied with the changes they made / have tlaked about in the announcement trailer?

Kind regards, David Big Grin
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#2
(19-06-2017, 06:06 PM)KingDavid Wrote: What do you think? Are you satisfied with the changes they made / have tlaked about in the announcement trailer?

So far to me it is not enough to justify a full new game. The graphics are very good but also very similar to Tropico 5. Multiple islands are great but could have been done in a DLC. Same for better transport. Improving transport should be done in a (free) patch. Only if there are new features for transport it might also justify a (paid) DLC.

As you say yourself, people have suggested multiple islands before but it was not done. Looking on Steam what is desired these days from games like this is the ability to mod the game and offer a workshop to exchange improvements and additional content. There is no word yet from the developers on modding. I am not very optimistic this will be offered because it's not Kalypso's style to listen to the community. See for example how Paradox involves the community for the games they publish"Here is what we plan to do, tell us what you think ?" and see how Kalypso involves the community for their games "We have a new game, we know it's great, buy it."

It's still early days so maybe there is still time for Limbic Entertainment to interact here in the forum and involve the community in the development. So still potential for a great gaeme.

I like the games Kalypso published in the past and bought a few like Patrician 3, Port Royale 2 or Grans Ages Medeival, but they lack the depth and the fong term fun like Europa Universalis 4, Crusader Kings 2 or Cities Skylines.
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#3
(19-06-2017, 06:06 PM)KingDavid Wrote: Hi,

I've played all Tropico games so far and finally decided to register here. I am very excited for this new installment of the series. I did not enjoy Tropico 5 as much as the other Tropicos, so I hope this will be my new favourite game. When Tropico 5 came out, back then I wrote e-mails to Kalypso suggesting they should implement better transport, and have maps with multiple islands (archipelagos). That was not only my request, but the requests of several players back then in the forums.
People have to understand Kalypso at the time was not a big publisher like EA or Paradox to produce a game with a large archipelago map. 
That being said, they saw how well Tropico 4 did and saw the potential it had. So they poured everything into make the series a big title with T5 and it worked! It became their most pre-ordered game of all time. 
That said how could you not find it enjoyable with all its upgrade. The graphics were significantly improved, they expand the timeline to 4 different eras, multiplayer was introduced, and the ability to create your own constitution was finally possible. Frankly I thought all the cool new stuff outweighed not having archipelagos
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(20-06-2017, 02:06 AM)mannysbigtown Wrote: People have to understand Kalypso at the time was not a big publisher like EA or Paradox to produce a game with a large archipelago map. 
That being said, they saw how well Tropico 4 did and saw the potential it had. So they poured everything into make the series a big title with T5 and it worked! It became their most pre-ordered game of all time. 
That said how could you not find it enjoyable with all its upgrade. The graphics were significantly improved, they expand the timeline to 4 different eras, multiplayer was introduced, and the ability to create your own constitution was finally possible. Frankly I thought all the cool new stuff outweighed not having archipelagos

The size of the developer isn't an excuse for the quality of the game, especially when you have small indie teams making some great games. I prefer T4 Modern Times to T5. While Kalypso announced the great T5 pre-order numbers, according to Steam Spy and other sales estimates T4 sold a lot better overall. 

I understand a lot of people love T5 and that's fine, I just wasn't one of them. The RTS elements in T5 are pretty terrible, IMO. I hope T6 gets back to Tropico's roots.
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#5
I am 100 percent ready to take over the world. Sign me up!!!
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#6
Tropico 5 greatly improved military combat and the importance of international politics - especially with the secret agents. I was glad there are more options than US/USSR and I'm glad to see international politics remain at least as important. I do wonder how money is handled in Tropico 6. I did not like the poor/rich/well off classes at all. The ability to set wages like in Tropico 4 allows much greater income inequality than Tropico 5 and is an important tool in creating a privileged upper class. I had much more trouble creating a military junta in Tropico 5.
 
I also hope a secular state really does mean a secular state. No more people asking if I want to build a church for them and pay the priests. 
 
All in all, I'm pretty curious and eager to learn more. I own every copy of Tropico and enjoyed every one of them.
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#7
I loved Tropico 3 and 4, hated 5. I really missed god mode in 5 and extremely disliked the forced combat. I loved 3 and 4 sandbox where I could build a city and not be forced to build military posts. I pre-ordered 5 and didn't like it. I'll watch to see where they're going with the game play. If it has peaceful building options, I'll buy it. If it has no peaceful building options, I won't buy it.
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#8
After watching all gamescom videos and interviews I'm a bit disappointed that none of my issues with 5 are addressed, like dumbed down building process with huge grids that reduces complexity greatly.
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#9
I'm cautiously optimistic that T6 will be an improvement over T5 and take Tropico back to some of its "roots" that were stronger points in the series in T3 & T4. While archipelagos and the funny idea of having the Statue of Liberty or Eiffel Tower in Tropico are nice, I don't rate either of these changes as "revolutionary" or some kind of major improvement to the series (I feel both could have been DLC/expansions for T5).

What concerns me most in the gameplay trailers is that T6 still looks and feels A LOT like T5, even down to the visual style and size/layout of many of the buildings. The "grid" structure for roads and the "snap-to" for buildings and forcing everyone to optimize by building in squares is one of the big things that I feel took away much of the customization and free-feeling flow of the series previously (as others have said), so I'm not encouraged by this.

Still, there are some promising signs, with the return of meaningful factions, the emphasis the devs are putting on fully simulated Tropicans and the need to keep them and their factions happy to win elections. Also, the biggest improvement I'm looking forward to would have to be the increased visual diversity, as stated in the FAQ:

Quote:More visual diversity - All residential buildings and many infrastructure buildings have three variations each, so 30 in total. 
Props will appear on existing buildings, e.g. TV antennas, air conditioners, etc. 
Visualization of other gameplay effects includes details like cracked walls on old buildings, pollution, broken windows and even graffiti in areas with high crime rates.

This will go a long way to making Tropico feel more unique, and making my city/island feel like my own. If they could go back to free-form roads and abandon the grid system (as unlikely as this may be), it would be even better!

Either way, I'm just happy to be getting another Tropico that will advance the series and I hope the devs are listening to any and all feedback to make this one the best yet!
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#10
Hi Maximo,
thank you for the great feedback and kind words and all the feedback and also suggestions you have come up with the last couple of days and weeks, too!

Be aware that we are listening to all thge feedback and suggestions/ideas fans of Tropico came up with.
For this reason you will actually see archipelagos, bridges, factions, eclection speeches and much more...

Additionally as most of you are always referring to current gameplay-videos (which are actually outdated already), please be aware that the shown footage is pre-alpha footage, meaning right out of developement, to give you a glimpse how the game might look like, but definitely not giving you a final look on the game. So most of the footage you have seen included still placeholders of buildings, and most of the stuff, especially things to be seen, are still subject to change, or even changes until release.


cheers

Unerde
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#11
Thanks for the response Unerde. I am aware that much of this footage from early in the development process and am happy to hear the team continues to listen to feedback and work on making the best possible Tropico yet!

Looking forward to seeing more official footage and screenshots soon and hopefully the devs can even incorporate some of the best tweaks that pop up on the forums!
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