It is disappointing; I agree. I would prefer a simple Yes or No regarding the patch as well. It's far better than simply ignoring and not addressing the issue.

(30-06-2010 03:17 PM)SmoothHound Wrote:  Why not update us? Why?
Companies who do business like this is shameful....absolutely shameful.
There is no excuse for ignoring customers on your own bloody forum!!! If I was a senior manager I would be utterly mortified and would be trying to rectify the issue or AT THE VERY LEAST GIVE SOME INFO!

Well, they're clearly not reading what people are saying here in their very own forums....I've already recommended castrating them for all the bullcrap they've put us through and I'm still here. They certainly don't give a crap about you and me....they're too busy counting all the money they made from ripping us all off by selling us a broken game. I feel sorry about all the "new fans" on facebook just having nothing but praise for the game....can't wait when their population level on the game exceeds 500.

(30-06-2010 11:17 PM)rebelco Wrote:  Well, they're clearly not reading what people are saying here in their very own forums....

flood the forum, if they delete, they read.
I'm gonna sent another e-mail to the support to see what's with the patch, i'm pretty sure they will not respond.

Well if you ask me...

IMO Kalypso Media have probably cut all ties with Haemimont Games, which is why we're not getting any news about it.

I don't think Kalypso would want to release another Haemimont Game after this balls up. With so many people banging on about Kalypso taking their money, it seems Haemimont Games have gotten away with it. So it makes sense for Kalypso to repair their tarnished image by scrapping their relations with Haemimont Games.

Or maybe Haemimont Games have decided to axe all xbox 360 development. Who knows ay.

(01-07-2010 02:34 PM)Lopez! Wrote:  I don't think Kalypso would want to release another Haemimont Game after this balls up. With so many people banging on about Kalypso taking their money, it seems Haemimont Games have gotten away with it. So it makes sense for Kalypso to repair their tarnished image by scrapping their relations with Haemimont Games.

Or maybe Haemimont Games have decided to axe all xbox 360 development. Who knows ay.

Even so, they have to at least SAY SOMETHING. "Hey, we really screwed it up....sorry but we're not making a patch. Get over it....and thanks for all the money. Sayonara, bi-yatches!!" Come out there and put the final nail in the coffin already instead of absolutely saying absolutely nothing for over 6 frigging months....that just keeps the hope alive. Think about it....instead of doing the absolute minimum they can do, they've decided to do NOTHING....NOTHING is the only action worth doing for you and I. Aside from their game testing, quality control, and forum webmaster, their public relations section is clearly unmanned (or severely understaffed) as well since no company (videogame or otherwise) would let this kind negative publicity build up to such levels we are seeing now....and each passing day, my anger grows and them still saying nothing is like throwing gasoline into the fire.

(30-06-2010 11:17 PM)rebelco Wrote:  ... I feel sorry about all the "new fans" on facebook just having nothing but praise for the game --- can't wait when their population level on the game exceeds 500.

I'm not sure the folks on FACEBOOK have the attention span to play the game long enough to get a population of 500.

After all -- look at all the other things they are 'multi-tasking' --!

One has to wonder if they can attend to all their electronic life while making time for over-eating, defecating, and copulating. Oh, I forget that 'texting' is just part of those three activities. What's the texting code for - "I just had an orgasm" ?? Is it better if all having the orgasm transmit their text\twitter report simultaneously? Dare I guess that "O'crap" is a literal report by text or twitter?

So gameplaying barely fits into a life which revolves around reporting each firing of a mental synapse to twitter and facebook and the electronic world at large and in general.

(01-07-2010 05:39 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  

(30-06-2010 11:17 PM)rebelco Wrote:  ... I feel sorry about all the "new fans" on facebook just having nothing but praise for the game --- can't wait when their population level on the game exceeds 500.

I'm not sure the folks on FACEBOOK have the attention span to play the game long enough to get a population of 500.

After all -- look at all the other things they are 'multi-tasking' --!

One has to wonder if they can attend to all their electronic life while making time for over-eating, defecating, and copulating. Oh, I forget that 'texting' is just part of those three activities. What's the texting code for - "I just had an orgasm" ?? Is it better if all having the orgasm transmit their text\twitter report simultaneously? Dare I guess that "O'crap" is a literal report by text or twitter?

So gameplaying barely fits into a life which revolves around reporting each firing of a mental synapse to twitter and facebook and the electronic world at large and in general.

I really doubt they will say something. Why bother at this point. As I mentioned before, they are just hoping this will disappear like a fart in the wind. It's a shame because as I said in a previous post - no matter what game Kalpyso ever makes down the road, I will not spend another penny on their products. And I am still spreading the word about their terrible treatment of customers.

(06-07-2010 03:39 PM)nycmode75 Wrote:  I really doubt they will say something. Why bother at this point. As I mentioned before, they are just hoping this will disappear like a fart in the wind. It's a shame because as I said in a previous post - no matter what game Kalpyso ever makes down the road, I will not spend another penny on their products. And I am still spreading the word about their terrible treatment of customers.

Aside from personally boycotting any Kalypso products that gets released in the future, what can we really do that will make a difference? I tried spreading the word to friends and other videogamers and I keep getting a similar respond "get a life....go outside to smell some fresh air once in a while instead of being in front of a monitor playing a videogame". I bet we will get a similar response when we try to take it to the newspapers or television news....a class-action lawsuit or reporting them to the Better Business Bureau seem to be the most logical choices but all this time, no of us has manage to get the ball rolling on those options either. We need a leader to get thing things organized otherwise like you said, all of this WILL disappear like a fart in the wind.

simple answer
boycott "darkstar one"
http://www.kalypsomedia.com/en-us/games/...nalliance/
tell anyone and every one

Only when money involved will companies listen.

This is no longer about patching a game. It's about the utter lack of respect and response to a consumer.
To admit a problem, state a solution is being worked on, then deny the problem, and ignore it is fool hardy.

Though I haven't participated in these forums for some time, I have been checking in periodically. The moderator has seen fit to delete various abusive post relating to this subject (understandable), but refuses to update the "xbox Update status" sticky post. Or at least have enough sense to remove it, or post, that it is a problem then can not be solved. Thus leaving the community to come up with work arounds, flame each other, and gather in limbo.

Months ago I stated this would never be resolved, or fixed.

Now I offer a solution. Boycott the next game to be released for the xbox.360 system. Use your friends lists, and what ever other game forums you belong to.
I don't have a great deal of time, but I can make some for this issue. Please do the same.

Kalypso and Timo make me sad

(06-07-2010 10:24 PM)rebelco Wrote:  

(06-07-2010 03:39 PM)nycmode75 Wrote:  I really doubt they will say something. Why bother at this point. As I mentioned before, they are just hoping this will disappear like a fart in the wind. It's a shame because as I said in a previous post - no matter what game Kalpyso ever makes down the road, I will not spend another penny on their products. And I am still spreading the word about their terrible treatment of customers.

Aside from personally boycotting any Kalypso products that gets released in the future, what can we really do that will make a difference? I tried spreading the word to friends and other videogamers and I keep getting a similar respond "get a life....go outside to smell some fresh air once in a while instead of being in front of a monitor playing a videogame". I bet we will get a similar response when we try to take it to the newspapers or television news....a class-action lawsuit or reporting them to the Better Business Bureau seem to be the most logical choices but all this time, no of us has manage to get the ball rolling on those options either. We need a leader to get thing things organized otherwise like you said, all of this WILL disappear like a fart in the wind.

It's unfortunate but I think at this point it would be more effective to just boycott future games. People are not going to get their money back with this game because technically you can still play the game, albeit flawed. Fighting a protracted legal battle over this would be financially draining. I do think however, because their games tend to target a niche audience and pretty much most people who buy this game know about the problem, you can rest assured that in the future when Kalypso releases a new product, they will certainly take a financial hit due to the lack of confidence many people have with this game. A lot of the folks who would be motivated to buy a future game from them will certainly not do so and I think that would definitely hurt a company like this which targets a niche audience.

One a side note, I've gotten a good amount of feedback from people in other retail sites where I've made a point of posting warnings about buying this product. Many folks have emailed me thanking me for giving them the heads up and said they will not purchase this game unless something is done to fix it. Even if 35 people avoided buying the game (and I'm certain there's a lot more than that, but just using the figure as an example), that's nearly $1000 bucks out the window, which makes me feel good knowing I saved some other folks both money, and frustration.

Boycotting games is just spiting yourself though.

I mean if Tropico 4 came out on the 360, I'd place a fairly high wager that saving the game will work. So I don't think I'm going to miss out on a game that I'd really want to play, just to "punish" the publisher/developers for the previous game.

The situation with the Xbox 360 patch sounds very similar to another 360 game I've played.

The developers had a contract with the publishers that pretty much gave the publishers all the rights to decide what did, and more importantly didn't, happen with the console versions of the game.

The game had some issues with a couple of the units being messed up and also was missing some content that had been cut because the developers had to meet the publishers deadline and couldn't get it done in time.

The developers promised that they would fix the units in a patch and release the missing content for free later down the line. Sure enough, they built the patch and made the missing content, but since Microsoft charges money for patches and DLC, and the game had not sold very well, the publisher decided it was not worth their money to release the patch and DLC.

Later on the developer cut their ties with the publisher and released a PC version of the game, which had all the content and some other things made in the meanwhile, and they even offered all owners of the 360 version of the game the PC version for half price, which was pretty good of them and more than they had to do, but it still didn't fix the 360 version.

Why I'm saying this situation is similar to Tropico 3's is that T3 is another game that has sold okay but not great, and the publishers may have come to the same decision about the cost effectiveness of releasing a patch.

It's a shame really. There's no point hanging on to a broken game, espically when a good fanbase will influence another game for the series. So the xbox version of the game is doomed to live in the second hand market for the rest of it's days. Meaning there'll be nothing in the way of new sales which raises money for the publisher. But hey, good news for game stop... having the same game copies circulating through your retail system.

The thing is, if you could save properly on the xbox then I would highly recommend this game to my mates instead of telling them to avoid it. Oh well, some people just don't want the cash.

Yup. I played the 360 demo, loved it, brought the 360 version and then saw this problem on the forums here. So I took it back to the store and got the PC version instead.

The 360 control scheme for this game is great, and even on max settings the PC version only looks slightly better. To be honest I would rather be playing on the 360, but this is too big a problem to ignore.

Never ran into it myself, but even in the demo I was getting around 200-250 population on the first island, so obviously you would run into it pretty soon on a larger island.

There's so many other good games out there on so many different platforms to distract us in this world. Frankly I think I can live happily if I never played another Kalypso game again.

That being said, I think what makes people unhappy here isn't that it's a crappy game that's broken. It's actually a decent game that is fun and very addictive. That's what draws the ire of folks, that you have a decent product, but won't or can't find a way to make it, simply speaking, work properly. It's like driving a nice car with a flat tire. Annoying

(16-07-2010 07:47 PM)nycmode75 Wrote:  It's actually a decent game that is fun and very addictive. That's what draws the ire of folks, that you have a decent product, but won't or can't find a way to make it, simply speaking, work properly. It's like driving a nice car with a flat tire. Annoying

Like driving your ultimate dream car then having the transmission system blow up and explode the very second you switch it to second gear....very annoying indeed!!

Up.
People need answers.

GIVE US A FREAKING PATCH ALREADY!

(17-07-2010 02:13 AM)rebelco Wrote:  

(16-07-2010 07:47 PM)nycmode75 Wrote:  It's like driving a nice car with a flat tire. Annoying

Like driving your ultimate dream car then having the transmission system blow up and explode the very second you switch it to second gear....very annoying indeed!!

It's more like picking your car up from the show room, driving it around for hours, take it home and park it in the garage. Open the garage doors the next morning and the car is gone! WTF happened!

Hi,

I'm new here, but I'm following this thread with interest.

Currently not happy to purchase with this glitch not fixed, but could somebody confirm it is possible to get all the Xbox acheivements without encountering the glitch please?

Thanks.

(21-07-2010 10:21 PM)alandonovan Wrote:  Hi,

I'm new here, but I'm following this thread with interest.

Currently not happy to purchase with this glitch not fixed, but could somebody confirm it is possible to get all the Xbox acheivements without encountering the glitch please?

Thanks.

So long as you do not exceed the population level that activates the bug THEN save the game, there should be no problem. The only real way around this bug is to continue playing without saving or loading until you get the achievements then exit to the main menu....once you unlock it, it's yours forever but this could easily take a day or two so just pause the game when you need to rest and pray the X-BOX 360 doesn't freeze up or crash otherwise you are screwed and thrown back to square one.

Personally, I won't play this way and rather leave the game to collect dust than bend over backwards to accommodate the incompetency of Kalypso. Being able to save a game is VITAL to any videogame as many of us don't have the 20-100 plus hours it takes to fully complete the game in one single sitting....being able to save our progress and come back at a later time to continue is a not only a need but also a mandatory requirement and Kalypso taking it away from us is nothing but a big sloppy slap in our faces and them still not doing a thing after overs 6 months is just their way of pushing that virtual dildo deeper into our collective corn holes.

(20-07-2010 02:49 PM)Lopez! Wrote:  

(17-07-2010 02:13 AM)rebelco Wrote:  

(16-07-2010 07:47 PM)nycmode75 Wrote:  It's like driving a nice car with a flat tire. Annoying

Like driving your ultimate dream car then having the transmission system blow up and explode the very second you switch it to second gear....very annoying indeed!!

It's more like picking your car up from the show room, driving it around for hours, take it home and park it in the garage. Open the garage doors the next morning and the car is gone! WTF happened!

LMAO I love the analogies. They are all so accurate!

It's funny but I noticed that remake of the 4-year old PC game Dark Star One hit store shelves this week. Published by Kalypso. When I saw that I made a point of not buying it (mediocre reviews didn't help things either). But what's funny was that some reviews pointed out bugs in that game that were also similar to some of the frustration we expressed here on Tropico 3. One notable one was some glitch where if you select certain missions you end up not being able to travel to them on the map and it sort of gets stuck in limbo. Not sure if they ever fixed that but I found it quite amusing that another unpleasant major bug was detected in that game based on some of the literature that I read.

Surprise, surprise!

Kalypso are now deleting the thread concerning an eventual answer regarding the save glitch. the thread asking the simple question "can we expect a patch for the xbox" have been deleted.
"thanks for buying our products!" my ass thanks for nothing.

Another broken game (Dark Star One) released by Kalypso....why am I not surprised!! Nowadays, whenever I hear "glitches" or the phrase "riddled with bugs", I am quickly reminded of Kalypso. They should be put in the dictionary as an alternative description to disappointment. As a videogame company, they are below mediocre as it is and their bad attitude towards their customers isn't helping them any.

Since I've wasted good money buying games from them that turned out to be total crap, any future releases they have I will download a cracked copy from the internet instead....in my calculations, they owe me so that should even things out. I refuse to pay good cash to support a company that will only make more bad broken games in the future to disappoint more gamers. The buck has to stop here!!

The only good out of this for me was the fact that by not being playable, my lack of time spent on Tropico 3 (which I initially spent the bulk of my gaming time on) had been transferred to Red Dead Redemption - which is an example of how buggy games can be fixed correctly. (They had their multiplayer bugs/issues addressed within days and they even had the ability to come out with some seriously fun co-op missions to boot later on).

Thanks to Tropico being unplayable for me, I was able to really focus on RDR and kick some serious butt on the game now!

And I saved some cash from buying Dark Star One, which to be totally honest, I would have seriously considered buying due to the dearth of games out in the summer right now. Too bad Kalypso screwed up but hey, at least it saved me some money lol!

Anyway, I was able to complete campaign and almost all achievements (except survive uprising) with current xbox version, so it is still playable, even that it has some really annoying features. I see that fixing PC version is much more important than xbox version, sorry guys for being harsh with this.... :/

Im in a bad mood today and thought i'd check to see if there has been any updates. Obviously not.....Why do I even bother to check...........well I shall tell you. This game is incredibly good and is right up my street. You know what I did? I actually booked a whole week off work to play this game.............only 2 other games I did that with was GTA San Andreas and GTA IV. Sometimes its nice just to chill out in front of the PS3 or Xbox.......plus the fact I wasn't married then.

I would absolutely love to get an expansion for Xbox....or even Tropico 4, I would definitely buy it, Id stick my cash down now................except for a tiny niggle....ok the Save game issue is a problem.....but at this moment....the biggest niggle I have is the utter lack of information....I mean all these 'new' topics about it have been deleted, yet THIS topic which is ABOUT THE FRIGGIN' problem doesn't get updated. This lack of information is absolutely infuriating me....It shouldn't I know, but I can't help it.

Its like buying a wonderful cream cake and finding rat crap in it not just one cake, but every single one.....and the person who made it refused to comment when people complain. (was that a bad comparison? More than likely).

Please for the love of god, provide an update or I swear Im gonna bust a blood vessel in my head over this. This 'stick your head in the sand' you got going on is damaging! Surely you realise this? Why not man up, grow some balls and tell us how you are going on, this lack of information is causing your company some serious damage.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

Well, I finally got a decent enough video card that I can play this on PC without it being a slideshow. I'm still working through the campaign on 360 (the controls are really fantastic), though, and I'd really like to 1000/1000 this one. I know the issues are frustrating, but man is this an awesome game.

I doubt they will provide an update. I believe their heads are under a rock or in the sand. *Continues internet campaign to help consumers save money by avoiding this game at all costs*