Just out of interest, was a Theme Park ever considered for tourism? I know it seems random, but i was playing Tropico, wandering what the kids of my island got up too all day, and then thought some sort of kid building would be good. It could be over-charging because parents will pay anything to shut their kids up.

Then it hit me. A theme park is just that. Doesnt have to be bigger than the sports complex (Which never seems to be a hit for me?) and all tourists love a theme park?

In the 1950s and for several decades before and after, they were called Amusement Parks in the US and were generally centered on a roller coaster (see "Roller Coaster Tycoon") if they were near a large city.

"Theme" Park is simply a marketing department hype name -- probably started in Texas with "6 Flags" or with Dizneyland -- which came first?

See: USA Theme Parks, Amusement Parks, Waterparks, and Zoos.

http://www.themeparkcity.com/USA_index.htm

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Sorry. Meant to be helpful and informative -- not corrective.

I stand corrected, Amusement Parks. Were they ever considered for tourism?

(26-02-2010 05:59 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  In the 1950s and for several decades before and after, they were called Amusement Parks in the US and were generally centered on a roller coaster (see "Roller Coaster Tycoon") if they were near a large city.

"Theme" Park is simply a marketing department hype name -- probably started in Texas with "6 Flags."

See: USA Theme Parks, Amusement Parks, Waterparks, and Zoos.

http://www.themeparkcity.com/USA_index.htm

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Sorry. Meant to be helpful and informative -- not corrective.

The United Kingdom never call them Amusement Parks, have they ever? I only recall from my English teacher that Americans say Amusement Parks and the British call them Theme Parks... though knowing you CoconutKid, you will correct me.

Juanito, come in here.

“Now what do you want El Jefe?”

I want to soak more pesos out of all these tourists visiting our island. I think we could develop a 6 Flags over Tropico Theme Park that could do that. But I want to keep it themed to reflect our island accurately. I believe we could put in the following attractions.

1. Burro Rides - to put all those spare donkeys hanging around the Teamsters Offices to work.
2. Traffic Dodgem Cars -- to reflect our current traffic jam situations here on the island.
3. Rowboat Regatta Pool – to better reflect our fishermen’s way of life.
4. Dancing with the DJ – to put Juanito to work bugging the tourists with his constant chatter.
5. Rebel Yell Shooting Gallery – to finally put the rebels back to work, or use them as targets.
6. Banana Peel Slide – a big slippery yellow slide sponsored by the Tropican Fruit Company.
7. El Presidente Bar & Grill – for overpriced spiced rum drinks and smoked beef sticks of course.
8. Bubba the Builder – a place to practice with Legos on how to be a lazy construction worker.
9. Tropico Thunder Roller Coaster – to reflect the ups and downs of my popularity with the people.

What do you think amigo?

(26-02-2010 06:42 PM)Juanito Wrote:  The United Kingdom never call them Amusement Parks, have they ever? I only recall from my English teacher that Americans say Amusement Parks and the British call them Theme Parks - though knowing you CoconutKid, you will correct me.

You don't have to be personal.

I am sure the teacher in a British school is far more qualifed than I am to translate between British and American versions of the English language. I'm also sure that teacher can also lecture on the differences in the language amongst the various parts of the "united kingdom."

What do they call them in Germany or Bulgaria where the game was redone?

(26-02-2010 08:03 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  What do they call them in Germany or Bulgaria where the game was redone?

In Germany they are called 'Freizeitpark', translated it means something like 'leisure time park'. If i had to make a difference, i would consider parks like Disneyland or Warner Brothers Movie Park as a theme park and one like in Coney Islands as amusement park.

What about the expression funfair, is that still used in the US or GB?

(26-02-2010 06:42 PM)Juanito Wrote:  

(26-02-2010 05:59 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  In the 1950s and for several decades before and after, they were called Amusement Parks in the US and were generally centered on a roller coaster (see "Roller Coaster Tycoon") if they were near a large city.

"Theme" Park is simply a marketing department hype name -- probably started in Texas with "6 Flags."

See: USA Theme Parks, Amusement Parks, Waterparks, and Zoos.

http://www.themeparkcity.com/USA_index.htm

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Sorry. Meant to be helpful and informative -- not corrective.

The United Kingdom never call them Amusement Parks, have they ever? I only recall from my English teacher that Americans say Amusement Parks and the British call them Theme Parks... though knowing you CoconutKid, you will correct me.

Hi Juanito,
You are correct, in the uk, we call them theme parks (generally speaking).

http://www.altontowers.com/ (One of the most famous and biggest ones)


Here is another one
http://www.draytonmanor.co.uk/ (this theme park is quite nice)

If you google the names of these theme parks, their descriptions will state that they are theme parks.

As for including them, hey why not, I think that they should make them accessible to tropicans as well.

I think amusement parks/ theme are an awesome idea and would like to see (EL Presidente Land, now featuring the secret police coaster of doom) plus does it really matter what they are called i mean who cares, lets not turn this into a Civil War OK.

(26-02-2010 08:03 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  What do they call them in Germany or Bulgaria where the game was redone?

(26-02-2010 08:20 PM)Hightoy Wrote:  In Germany they are called 'Freizeitpark', translated it means something like 'leisure time park'.

You're close, its literal translation is 'Free time park', not that it makes much difference.

I don't believe the introduction of a Theme Park is necessary as it would then turn into 'Roller Coaster Tycoon'. Although it is good to see some experimental thinking. There is a lacking of elements within the game, and to see some inventional ideas is good.

They could help make tourism more of a money maker. Imagine, you have to provide it with food, electricity, add-ons like Security Center to stop crime there.

It will be one of those things that, if you kept well oiled and working efficiently, will keep the money rolling in.

Theme park in this game is just for El Presidente to collect more respect only, not for entertainment. It's the Childhood Museum, hehe.

Sometimes I set it free for people to join.

oh yeah the museum i almost forgot????

good idea, maybe they can use it to finally make tourism profitable.

(26-02-2010 08:47 PM)TheShanks Wrote:  

(26-02-2010 06:42 PM)Juanito Wrote:  

(26-02-2010 05:59 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  In the 1950s and for several decades before and after, they were called Amusement Parks in the US and were generally centered on a roller coaster (see "Roller Coaster Tycoon") if they were near a large city.

"Theme" Park is simply a marketing department hype name -- probably started in Texas with "6 Flags."

See: USA Theme Parks, Amusement Parks, Waterparks, and Zoos.

http://www.themeparkcity.com/USA_index.htm

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Sorry. Meant to be helpful and informative -- not corrective.

The United Kingdom never call them Amusement Parks, have they ever? I only recall from my English teacher that Americans say Amusement Parks and the British call them Theme Parks... though knowing you CoconutKid, you will correct me.

Hi Juanito,
You are correct, in the uk, we call them theme parks (generally speaking).

http://www.altontowers.com/ (One of the most famous and biggest ones)


Here is another one
http://www.draytonmanor.co.uk/ (this theme park is quite nice)

If you google the names of these theme parks, their descriptions will state that they are theme parks.

As for including them, hey why not, I think that they should make them accessible to tropicans as well.

I generally see theme parks as a park which is themed. So Chessington World of Adventures in Surry UK is a theme park because the Park is split into several different themed sections like an oriental theme, wild west theme or horror theme.

Other than that (in the uk) I consider non-theme parks to be Fun Fairs ^_^

I'm surprised that our american cousins don't call them theme parks. Did they never play the bullfrog game?

Jubilee, fun fairs, fete, carnival, circus, theme park, amusement park, water park, coaster park, and many other names, honestly who cares there all places to relax and have fun and that's what matters.

As an american I can say that we use both. Theme parks are exemplified by Disneyworld/land and Universal Studios. Whereas six flags and Busch Gardens would be amusement parks (amusement parks, in my opinion are not worth your time). The theme park was invented by Walt Disney.

A funfair or carnival is pretty much just small mobile amusement parks that have highly nauseating rides(I get motion sickness quite easily so I'm not much of a fan), we still have these.

(26-02-2010 06:18 PM)Mike Langlois Wrote:  I stand corrected, Amusement Parks. Were they ever considered for tourism?

O.K. - to the basic question and who cares about the name.

T3 gives you a Zoo which is a second cousin to a complex of amusement features.

What was considered in the development process? How closely do you wish to examine the minutes of the staff meetings?

A conglomeration of rides, shows, and snack bars takes a fair sized amount of land space. The construction of a feature that takes a large land area is not easy to do in a city building game. T1 considered and failed on several including plazas, golf courses, and probably even "play parks."

Quote:... I was playing Tropico, wondering what the kids of my island got up too all day, and then thought some sort of kid building would be good ...

That's a good question. Relating it to an amusement park is not - IMHO! [I remember the sequence in the Disney movie "Pinocchio" when the lead character is enticed to the fun park and made into an ass.]

Both T1 and T3 dropped the ball on infant and child care. Most player comments worry over the "non-productiveness" of children even though they (theoretically) last only 13 years and their mothers only bother with them for ~8 months pre-birth.

Who is going to promote yet another socialistic drag on the economy for a "child care" building which is just an 'overhead' burden on the intake of money? How you name it won't help.

For tourists, the player is supposed to assemble a conglomeration of the available buildings into a "park" for his/her tourist industry -- don't you think?

screenshot from the new addon

(26-02-2010 08:47 PM)TheShanks Wrote:  

(26-02-2010 06:42 PM)Juanito Wrote:  

(26-02-2010 05:59 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  In the 1950s and for several decades before and after, they were called Amusement Parks in the US and were generally centered on a roller coaster (see "Roller Coaster Tycoon") if they were near a large city.

"Theme" Park is simply a marketing department hype name -- probably started in Texas with "6 Flags."

See: USA Theme Parks, Amusement Parks, Waterparks, and Zoos.

http://www.themeparkcity.com/USA_index.htm

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Sorry. Meant to be helpful and informative -- not corrective.

The United Kingdom never call them Amusement Parks, have they ever? I only recall from my English teacher that Americans say Amusement Parks and the British call them Theme Parks... though knowing you CoconutKid, you will correct me.

Hi Juanito,
You are correct, in the uk, we call them theme parks (generally speaking).

http://www.altontowers.com/ (One of the most famous and biggest ones)


Here is another one
http://www.draytonmanor.co.uk/ (this theme park is quite nice)

If you google the names of these theme parks, their descriptions will state that they are theme parks.

As for including them, hey why not, I think that they should make them accessible to tropicans as well.

The term 'Theme Park' has only recently come into use in the UK - previously we just used to call them 'Amusements' - eg Dreamland in Margate was not a theme park - in fact nowhere in the UK was 'themed'....

...not that it really matters much

Amusement parks are fun and they are great for the kids. The name theme parks relates to a park having a certain characteristic such as Disney offers everything related to Disney. An amusement park is just roller coasters and other stuff for entertainment.

Go ahead-bump ages old thread

Very old thread indeed.

amusement park = various rides, attactions, etc. nothing really similar to the others.

THEME park = a park with a THEME, like christmas (one of the original theme parks), gothic, old english, 50's, etc.

You know, on some forums necroposting is actually a bit of a sport. I remember one place I used to hang out where you actually got forum prizes and recognition for posting in ancient threads that had been forgotten but not closed. Fun stuff.

Regarding the actual issue of a theme park, I'm not convinced it would actually bring anything unique to the game. And really, how many tropical banana republics in the Cold War had huge amusement parks running anyway? It would be expensive to build and maintain, and I'm sure it would use a lot of electricity. Granted, running a theme park could be fun, but I think there are other games more suited to that. Tropico is for island ruling, politics, and just unleashing your inner dictator.

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(09-08-2011 10:59 PM)Tyroq Wrote:  You know, on some forums necroposting is actually a bit of a sport. I remember one place I used to hang out where you actually got forum prizes and recognition for posting in ancient threads that had been forgotten but not closed. Fun stuff.

Regarding the actual issue of a theme park, I'm not convinced it would actually bring anything unique to the game. And really, how many tropical banana republics in the Cold War had huge amusement parks running anyway? It would be expensive to build and maintain, and I'm sure it would use a lot of electricity. Granted, running a theme park could be fun, but I think there are other games more suited to that. Tropico is for island ruling, politics, and just unleashing your inner dictator.

Well, to make it ironic, the theme is a banna republic......lol. And buildings to match that theme.

sea world is a theme park... Its been around sence the 60's.. there is also one in mystic,CT its more of an aqaurium though, but does have shows and lots of interesting stuff to see/do.. it opened in 73...

You dont have to have rides to be a theme park.. like Computer tech said.. just a theme

I have no idea why they call 6-flags a theme park.. the only theme i see there are rides,, that just crys amusement park to me..

Now take the bush gardens wiliamsburg, the collonial theme.. thats a theme park..

Yes I know Sea World and others have been around a long time, but those were built in America with lots of corporate money behind them, not on some small carribbean island with barely enough resources to sustain its population. I'm not against Theme Parks, I think they're awesome. I just don't see one fitting into the game here, it's quite unrealistic for that place and time period.

well some could say some of the tropical islands have theme parkish places.. You know those all inclusive places.. scuba, water shows, tour rides, ext.. you could mix and match entertainment and bulid your own theme park...


Hmm an idea for a new building... Scuba shack!