(15-01-2011 03:33 PM)Che Guevara Wrote:  

(13-01-2011 01:32 AM)Luke159 Wrote:  The one thing i would like to see is public transport like buses, the ability to place a depot and bus stops around your city cutting traffic drastically as thats been a huge issue in Tropico 3. Maybe even trains underground shuttle services or something or transport freight underground.

Subway ?! Come on, Tropico is a country in development and subway7metro is only in huge cities like Paris or London and they are much larger than the whole Tropico map

Actualy in the Tropical Island of Dominican Republic in the capital there is a Metro.

I think it would be very realistic. Especially when you have a multi-billion dollar island. I had 5 billion in the bank, but because of how much congestion there was my profits kept going down until I was broke.

-El Presidente 1949

(17-01-2011 04:10 PM)vladicorp Wrote:  Actualy in the Tropical Island of Dominican Republic in the capital there is a Metro.

The Santo Domingo Metro is a rapid transit system in Santo Domingo, the capital of the Dominican Republic; first subway system in the Dominican Republic and second in the Caribbean. The Santo Domingo Metro is part of a major "National Master Plan" to improve transportation in Santo Domingo as well as the rest of the nation. The first line was planned to relieve traffic congestion in the Maximo Gomez and Hermanas Mirabal Avenue. The second line, currently under construction, is meant to relieve the congestion along the Duarte-Kennedy-Centenario Corridor in the city from west to east. four more lines in the near future are planned to be constructed, for a total of six, as part of an effort to provide the citizens of Santo Domingo with a safe and efficient method of transportation by 2025.

The first line was un-officially inaugurated on February 27, 2008, but commercial service only started on January 30, 2009. On December 22, 2008 non-commercial operation of the metro system began as a way to provide free service to the public during the Christmas holiday season. The metro was closed on January 6, 2009 for final touches, before opening for commercial use on January 30, 2009.

Shortly after the inauguration of Line 1 presidential elections took place in the Dominican Republic. Leonel Fernandez was returned to power and promised to continue the expansion of the SDM across the Greater Santo Domingo. By the mid 2009, works on Line 2 had commenced: it is presently at an advanced stage of construction even though little official information on it has been provided to the public.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Domingo_Metro

Data:
Transit type = Rapid transit
Number of lines = 1
Number of stations = 16
Daily ridership = 100.000 (avg. weekday)
System length = 14.5 kilometers (9 mi)
Lines Planned:
Line 3 – Will pass by the city Center and under 27 de Febrero Avenue (which is considered the main business thoroughfare in the city) and reach across the Ozama River to Santo Domingo Este.
For this line, preliminary work was taken by Atteco. The Line 3 is now at "Ante-proyecto" (Draft Project) and already being fiscally prepared by OPRET.
Line 4 - Will run north-south under Gregorio Luperon Avenue from La Plaza de la Bandera to Kilometer 9 of the Duarte Highway connecting lines 2 and 3 in the west of the city.
Line 5 - Will run north-south under San Vicente de Paul Avenue from the Las Americas Highway intersection to Mella Road connecting lines 2 and 3 in the east of the city.
Line 6 - Will run south-east branching out of line 2 at the San Martin Avenue intersection and ending at the Colonial Zone. The exact route of this line is not yet known.

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That doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the 20th century "Cold War."

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San Juan is the capital of Puerto Rico and has 1.1 million inhabitants.

First line of the Tren Urbano under construction since 1997. Initially planned to open in 2001 it suffered some delays After trial service began in Dec. 2004, regular revenue service started eventually on 6 June 2005.

Initially planned with a length of 17.2 km and 16 stations, mainly elevated or at grade, underground at Río Pedras (Río Pedras and Universidad stations) and in downtown San Juan, the district of Santurce (San Mateo and Minillas stations). The latter section was postponed for an indefinite future.

The first trains produced by Siemens in Sacramento (California) arrived in March 2000.

Several branches are planned for the future, including one from downtown to the airport.

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/snju/san-juan.htm

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At least the construction time seems to match the abilities of the Tropican construction workers.

(18-01-2011 03:47 PM)CoconutKid Wrote:  

(17-01-2011 04:10 PM)vladicorp Wrote:  Actualy in the Tropical Island of Dominican Republic in the capital there is a Metro.

The Santo Domingo Metro is a rapid transit system in Santo Domingo, the capital of the Dominican Republic; first subway system in the Dominican Republic and second in the Caribbean. The Santo Domingo Metro is part of a major "National Master Plan" to improve transportation in Santo Domingo as well as the rest of the nation. The first line was planned to relieve traffic congestion in the Maximo Gomez and Hermanas Mirabal Avenue. The second line, currently under construction, is meant to relieve the congestion along the Duarte-Kennedy-Centenario Corridor in the city from west to east. four more lines in the near future are planned to be constructed, for a total of six, as part of an effort to provide the citizens of Santo Domingo with a safe and efficient method of transportation by 2025.

The first line was un-officially inaugurated on February 27, 2008, but commercial service only started on January 30, 2009. On December 22, 2008 non-commercial operation of the metro system began as a way to provide free service to the public during the Christmas holiday season. The metro was closed on January 6, 2009 for final touches, before opening for commercial use on January 30, 2009.

Shortly after the inauguration of Line 1 presidential elections took place in the Dominican Republic. Leonel Fernandez was returned to power and promised to continue the expansion of the SDM across the Greater Santo Domingo. By the mid 2009, works on Line 2 had commenced: it is presently at an advanced stage of construction even though little official information on it has been provided to the public.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Domingo_Metro

Data:
Transit type = Rapid transit
Number of lines = 1
Number of stations = 16
Daily ridership = 100.000 (avg. weekday)
System length = 14.5 kilometers (9 mi)
Lines Planned:
Line 3 – Will pass by the city Center and under 27 de Febrero Avenue (which is considered the main business thoroughfare in the city) and reach across the Ozama River to Santo Domingo Este.
For this line, preliminary work was taken by Atteco. The Line 3 is now at "Ante-proyecto" (Draft Project) and already being fiscally prepared by OPRET.
Line 4 - Will run north-south under Gregorio Luperon Avenue from La Plaza de la Bandera to Kilometer 9 of the Duarte Highway connecting lines 2 and 3 in the west of the city.
Line 5 - Will run north-south under San Vicente de Paul Avenue from the Las Americas Highway intersection to Mella Road connecting lines 2 and 3 in the east of the city.
Line 6 - Will run south-east branching out of line 2 at the San Martin Avenue intersection and ending at the Colonial Zone. The exact route of this line is not yet known.

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That doesn't seem to have all that much to do with the 20th century "Cold War."

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First "Subway" on a Caribbean Island
Tren Urbano

San Juan is the capital of Puerto Rico and has 1.1 million inhabitants.

First line of the Tren Urbano under construction since 1997. Initially planned to open in 2001 it suffered some delays After trial service began in Dec. 2004, regular revenue service started eventually on 6 June 2005.

Initially planned with a length of 17.2 km and 16 stations, mainly elevated or at grade, underground at Río Pedras (Río Pedras and Universidad stations) and in downtown San Juan, the district of Santurce (San Mateo and Minillas stations). The latter section was postponed for an indefinite future.

The first trains produced by Siemens in Sacramento (California) arrived in March 2000.

Several branches are planned for the future, including one from downtown to the airport.

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/snju/san-juan.htm

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At least the construction time seems to match the abilities of the Tropican construction workers.

Haha, indeed, 10 years to build something!

It doesn't seem to say anything about cost though.

(17-01-2011 11:05 PM)Presidente_Mathias Wrote:  I think it would be very realistic. Especially when you have a multi-billion dollar island. I had 5 billion in the bank, but because of how much congestion there was my profits kept going down until I was broke.

Awesome. Just rename the game Transport Tycoon 2 and we are all set.

(19-01-2011 01:41 PM)kayapo Wrote:  

(17-01-2011 11:05 PM)Presidente_Mathias Wrote:  I think it would be very realistic. Especially when you have a multi-billion dollar island. I had 5 billion in the bank, but because of how much congestion there was my profits kept going down until I was broke.

Awesome. Just rename the game Transport Tycoon 2 and we are all set.

Thank you kayapo for this pointing sarcasm!

There might indeed be some thinking about substituting many cars with some slow ugly buses for the poorer 4/5th of the inhabitants of course... waiting at the stop for hours due to those incalculable schedules. Of course the bus-driver is sometimes bribed to create an additional bus-stop... just a thought.

No need for a Metro on an undersized, underdeveloped isle at all!

Since Cold War theme is there, how about an including Non Aligned Movement? Sell some natural resources like ore at 50% of market price to Yugoslavia, in return send some Tropicans there to get college education for free and buy some cheap tractors (farm upgrade)?
Immigration of work force from India, oil import from Egypt or Libya,... What ever you think of.

Some kind of public transport would be awesome to have.

Bump for lots of discussion.